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Amy,
It has been a while since we corresponded. Some stuff found out.
My mom traveled to Denver in April and then we went to southeast Kansas. We visited Herb Payne and Bernard Karhoff. We also traveled to Carthage, MO to visit Joan (Mathis) Shaner, my mom's niece. Since got home, have heard that Bernard had a medical procedure and is now home doing well - I guess he turned 80 a few months ago.
I corresponded with a Cara who is descended from Herman & Lena (Goetz) Kiesow. If you recall from August Woutzke's obit, Lena was August's (and thus Carolina Krieger's) mother's half-sister. I gave her some stuff and she gave me one really big bit of information. He had Carolina (Lena) Goetz traveling on the Prince Albert ship in 1872. After I mentioned about Carolina having a half-sister, she looked at the ship manifesto and a Charlotte Wietzke was the next passenger listed. And then a Carl Kiesow - Herman's brother. It looks like Charlotte's son, August, was listed as one of Carl Kiesow's children. I have since gone to the Library and looked for the Prince Albert ship listing and found it.
The other item is I corresponded with a woman who had Heimsaeer on a branch - not a direct branch of her husband's. She informed me that the LDS site did not have yet the images posted but they have indexes available for future images. I had ordered the microfilm of 1820 on forward of Hemmerde Evangelical Church and I believe I sent you Frederich Wilhelm Heimsaeer's birth/baptism
Anyhow with the indexes, a few things have become clear. That area still used Hofnames when other areas used Nachnames (surname) - that is that when somebody moved into a farm or estate which had a name, they would assume that farm/estate name. Sometimes this was obvious when the farm/estate was from the spouse's family but not so obvious when a person buys the farm/estate from a non-relative.
Johan Henrich Wilhelm Heimplaetzer married Marie Catharine Heimsaeer and he took over the farm/estate, sooner or later his surname would assume Heimsaeer and especially for his children. Some church and other documents denote this by a gen. - Heimplaetzer gen. Heimsaeer or Wendel gen. Raulf.
The indexes were also gotten from the microfilms starting about 1750 and from surrounding villages. Frederich Wilhelm Heimplaetzer gen. Heimsaeer married Fredericka Carolina Wendel gen. Raulf in 1854 in Luenern, Westfalen, Germany - next village over. I could either wait for them to put the images on-line or order the microfilm to see the images which I have done.
Anyway, I believe I have Frederich Wilhelm Heimsar who was born in 1855 basically traced back to about 1750. Sure some assuming that the Hofnames work out. Have found a website belonging to a German who has made the same conclusions - I have made a couple more than he has.
I hate to send attachments out of the clear blue sky.
Geof"
