Charlotte on the Prince Albert

Received an email from Geof Knapp with the above Passenger list obtained from the Prince Albert register.

"

Amy,

 

It has been a while since we corresponded.   Some stuff found out.

 

My mom traveled to Denver in April and then we went to southeast Kansas.   We visited Herb Payne and Bernard Karhoff.   We also traveled to Carthage, MO to visit Joan (Mathis) Shaner, my mom's niece.   Since got home, have heard that Bernard had a medical procedure and is now home doing well - I guess he turned 80 a few months ago.

 

I corresponded with a Cara who is descended from Herman & Lena (Goetz) Kiesow.   If you recall from August Woutzke's obit, Lena was August's (and thus Carolina Krieger's)  mother's half-sister.   I gave her some stuff and she gave me one really big bit of information.   He had Carolina (Lena) Goetz traveling on the Prince Albert ship in 1872.   After I mentioned about Carolina having a half-sister, she looked at the ship manifesto and a Charlotte Wietzke was the next passenger listed.   And then a Carl Kiesow - Herman's brother.   It looks like Charlotte's son, August, was listed as one of Carl Kiesow's children.   I have since gone to the Library and looked for the Prince Albert ship listing and found it.

 

 

The other item is I corresponded with a woman who had Heimsaeer on a branch - not a direct branch of her husband's.    She informed me that the LDS site did not have yet the images posted but they have indexes available for future images.   I had ordered the microfilm of 1820 on forward of Hemmerde Evangelical Church and I believe I sent you Frederich Wilhelm Heimsaeer's birth/baptism entry from it.   I didn't have his parents' marriage but did have his father's birth/baptism.

 

Anyhow with the indexes, a few things have become clear.   That area still used Hofnames when other areas used Nachnames (surname)  - that is that when somebody moved into a farm or estate which had a name, they would assume that farm/estate name.   Sometimes this was obvious when the farm/estate was from the spouse's family but not so obvious when a person buys the farm/estate from a non-relative.

 

Johan Henrich Wilhelm Heimplaetzer married Marie Catharine Heimsaeer and he took over the farm/estate, sooner or later his surname would assume Heimsaeer and especially for his children.   Some church and other documents denote this by a gen.   -   Heimplaetzer gen. Heimsaeer   or Wendel gen. Raulf.  

 

The indexes were also gotten from the microfilms starting about 1750 and from surrounding villages.     Frederich Wilhelm Heimplaetzer gen. Heimsaeer   married    Fredericka Carolina Wendel gen. Raulf in 1854  in Luenern, Westfalen, Germany - next village over.    I could either wait for them to put the images on-line or order the microfilm to see the images which I have done.

 

Anyway, I believe I have Frederich Wilhelm Heimsar who was born in 1855 basically traced back to about 1750.   Sure some assuming that the Hofnames work out.    Have found a website belonging to a German who has made the same conclusions - I have made a couple more than he has.

 

I hate to send attachments out of the clear blue sky.

 

Geof"

 

Friederich Wilhelm Baptismal/Birth Record

The above record was obtained by Geoffrey Knapp.

The orange highlight shows the birth record of Friederich Wilhelm {William Heimsar}.  Click on picture to view it in larger format.

"Friederich Wilhelm, son of Friederich Heimsaer & Caroline Raulf, 2nd of December 1855 in the small town  of Siddinghausen outside of Hemmerde in Westfallen.   A Wilhelm Raulf is listed as a Godfather?"

Paul A. Cook War Photos

Paul and Mary Cooks Home in Fort Scott, KS

The below home is where Paul and Mary Cook lived in Fort Scott, KS until Paul's death.

Paul A. Cook and his sister Ruth.

Dog Kennels

Head Stone for Jacob and Sarah Cook

Jacob Mowers Cook and Sarah Ann Wright Cook

Headstone in Springhill Cemetery located in Labette County, Parsons, Kansas

Notes: Heimsar Family

Just wanted to add a section to put interesting notes from family or friends.  Geoffrey Knapp, grandson of Emma Heimsar, has provided a lot of information on the Heimsar family.  His grandmother saved a lot of family information and has generously shared this information with us.  It has been a gold mine of photos and family documentation.  I hope that you will enjoy it as much as I have.  Please notify me of any corrections or if you can fill in the blanks of where photos were taken and the date, I will add that documentation as well.  My plan is to create on spot on each family so that information that is known will not be lost.  It could be stories to speculations on research etc...

Note from Geoffrey Knapp:

"Frederick Wilhelm Heimsar was born in 1855.   I'll send some documents the next couple days.   He was in the German military but sounds like he went AWOL.   (I know in the 1880's the German military was brutal - amongst themselves and towards the citizenship.   According to my mom, he disagreed with the brutalness against the citizenship.)   He came to this country in 1883.    He settled in Knox Co., Missouri.    Don't know why there.    One route is to land in New Orleans and travel up the Mississippi.   Knox County isn't too far from the Mississippi - north of Hannibal, Missouri." 
End of Geoffrey Knapp email dated 10/28/10

"Caroline Krieger/Kriger was born to Wilhelm Krieger and Charolette Goetz.    Charolette was previously married to a William Woutzke.    (Looking in the LDS IGI, there was some Woutzke's in Gdanzk, Poland BUT Gdanzk was also Danzig, West Prussia!)     If the last name ended in an 'i', it might be a Polish name but ending in an 'e', it is a German name.

William and Charolette Woutzke had one child, August.   August is consistently listed as being born in Brazil or S.A.    Possibly that was the final destination??    In August's obit, it mentioned that Charolette Woutzke with child August met up with her half-sister Lena Kiesow in Knox Co., MO.    (I am not sure the order of arriving there - conflicting dates per census when both arrived in U.S.)    (Lena is short for Carolina!)    Lena's husband is Herman Kiesow.   (There were 2 or 3 Kiesow families - related.)

From South America, New Orleans would be a close port.   And then a trip up the Mississippi.  

William & Charolette Woutzke
1) August Woutzke   01 August 1869

Wilhelm and Charolette Krieger had 5 children
1) Caroline  b: 18 Jul 1873  Married to William Heimsar
2) Anna    b: 1875      Married to Bernard Karhoff
     One son, Lawrence, moved to Labette Co. and raised his family there.  Lawrence's son, Bernard, still lives in the Springhill area.
3) William b:1877  died in Quincy, Illinois hospital
      My mom always thought he died as an infant but at cousins in Knox Co. had picture of him in mid-teens
4) John  b. 1880.     Died and buried in Labette Co.
5) Fannie    (possibly both Fannie and mother Charolette died in child birth?)

William remarried to an Henrietta Booth in 1882.     At that time Caroline was hired out as house help.
William and Henrietta had
1) Henriette Agnes  b 1883  Married married George Karhoff
2) Nora   Married Ernest Green.    Died in New Orleans, LA
3) Emma   b. Feb1886     married to an Emmet B. Brown.
     According to my mom, Emmet played the fiddle.  
   (No connection with Christopher Lloyd's character in 'Back To The Future"
4) Elizabeth married John Karhoff
5) Clara  b. 1894    m. Hosea Boltz    
       She died at age 20.   Somebody listed a child but could not find any evidence.   Child birth?

George Karhoff & John Karhoff were brothers and a cousin to Bernard Karhoff."
End of Geoffrey Knapp email dated 10/31/2010

"My grandmother moved from Parsons to Idaho Falls in about 1980.    To make it as comfortable as possible for her, my parents tried to pack up as much of her stuff as possible (including pictures).   It was fortunate they did as my Aunt Junatita's house burned a few years later.    (Was not surprised as my aunt was a hoarder.)   My mom tried to have her mother and/or her best friend Mabel Budd who lived in Twin Falls identify as many pictures as possible.    My mom mentioned that also Walter's sister  Lola moved to Idaho in the 1920's and would come to visit with daughter Marjorie- possible last name Schlosky (sp?).   Marjorie was possibly between Ruth & my mom's age."

"I visited some Heimsar cousins in Germany - in 1984 and 1990.   I took along some pictures and one was the William Heimsar/Caroline Kriger picture.   They had the same picture, possibly sent to a sister or to his parents.   I have some more information information per the Heimsars in Germany.

Wilhelm Heimsar had 3 sisters and 2 brothers with both brothers dying before adulthood.      The other thing I found interesting is sometimes some of the records for Heimsars had  Heimplatzer geb. Heimsar.      It was as if the last name also included a title.     (Inherited the BIG farm place.)   Somebody who occasionally helped me suggested that it was more of an archiac German method.  " 
End Geoffrey Knapp email 11/5/2010.

William Krieger/Kriger

{photo provided by Geoffrey Knapp}

The above photo is of William Kriger, Caroline Kriger Heimsar's father, and Anna Heimsar Cooks grandfather.  Also in the picture is Clara, Caroline's half-sister.  Clara died at age 20.  On the right is John Kriger, brother.